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I think that chest piece looks pretty spot on now, great work! The only remaining question is how it fits with the back piece and how the shoulder straps are applied.

Apologies my friend - I know you mention chest and back renders the other day but I forgot you'd already posted up the chest! It's a busy trooping weekend, but I'll get that reviewed ASAP!

Looking forward to seeing the new renders, it will be great to get this costume over the line in the near future. It's brilliant how much work has already been done here, and once we have an approved CRL we can copy and paste the majority of it into the ISC grunt CRL too.

I'd agree with you that it isn't an especially gloss finish, but the close ups from that display definitely seem to show a metallic finish to my eye on the teeth and nose. I'd be happy with any kind of silver or gunmetal description for basic clearance. If we find new evidence in the future, we can always add in a Lvl2 description for maximum accuracy.

Good with me too

Great to see the ball back rolling here again! I'm setting aside time this week for a massive CRL catch-up, so I'll double check the new renders then mate, and we can see what to tackle next.

Sorry for the absence from this thread, December ended up being a lot more hectic than expected. I'll be clearing some time either tonight or taking a couple of hours in between jobs on Wednesday to help Ryan bring this current. I appreciate the frustration at the slow pace in recent months, and we'll do our best to get this over the line ASAP. We all want to see this amazing kit out there. And please don't think all the hard work by you guys has gone unnoticed. My last full review was back in November, when I made some tweaks and finalised everything that had been completed to that point. All the finalised text was uploaded to the separate CRL text thread that Mark created at the beginning. Ryan and Shane may need to make some extra tweaks as above, but by and large the hard work is done on those pieces. I'll pick up where I left off there and jump in to help where needed.

Strictly speaking that slot isn't visible on the actual belt, so a GML could call you up on that. Ultimately GMLs are the only ones who have a say in this though, so I'd recommended having a chat with whoever holds that position in your local garrison or squad. Because it is so difficult to see that area clearly in any reference images, they may be happy to let you proceed with that.

Hi Tony, No, no need for them to be functional at all. It would be perfectly acceptable to glue them on top. As for the attachment of the hard part of the outer belt to the belt itself, that's one that can be done a few ways. On my own Del kit I've already used two methods, but I've never been entirely happy with either: 1) I attached a strip of leather to either end of the hard belt, then stuck velcro to the other ends so that they can close behind my back. 2) I attached buckles/D-rings to the inside of the hard belt, and then fed a regular leather belt through and buckled it up out of sight behind the hard belt. Another option I've seen done: 3) Have functional pop rivets on the hard belt, and use these to attach the hard belt to a regular leather belt.

Brilliant work with keeping this moving forwards folks. When I finally get a chance I'll review the latest and add it to the finalised text.

Looks good to me!

A few possible tweaks above (in green)?

Are you able to upload any photos of your pauldron Scott, to help illustrate the elements being discussed?

Yep, all looks good there. I'd also tend to agree with putting weathering instructions in each section. While all the weathering looks the same wherever it occurs, it features in some parts much more than on others. It is also quite localised to specific areas at times, eg. at the top of the helmet. It might be worth even sticking some of those points into level 2 requirements.

You're definitely very close! Just a few tweaks needed I think: - Notch at the bottom of the upper chest plate needs to be less pointed. More like a semi circle shape. - The bottom edge of the lower chest plate needs to have a more gentle curve. Less pointed at the top. - If the details on the abdominal plate are embossed, they should only be raised up VERY slightly, if at all. The reference images don't really show any elevation, so we could even state that these can be painted on or applied with decals. What do you think? You can see in the image below that the details on the abdominal plate don't stand out from the armour at all: - Finally, if you do cast those panels onto the abdominal plate, I think they need to be slightly narrower. The lower chest plate needs two semi-circular notches cut into the bottom to line up with where those panel details appear on the abdominal plate.

It's difficult with animated costumes, but my instinct would be that it looks much the same as the animated TKs and Clones. Plus the whole point from a story perspective was Imperialising Mandalorians, so it would make sense that their armour would be made to resemble TKs.

Great start. I'll look in more detail tomorrow, but I can see a correction already with the designs on the lower plate. The designs are only slightly raised/embossed, and are below the middle plate above them. This middle plate has two semi circular cut outs that line up with the design below (similar to the cut out in the middle of the upper chest piece).

Brilliant mate, I understand exactly now. The original description had me picturing three shorter panels side by side, running horizontally along the bottom edge; not three panels stacked above each other below each of the large panels. I'll go back over the wording after work to see if a tweak is worthwhile. And yes, that would make a fantastic picture of the kama for the CRL, thanks a million. Will also take a look at the pauldron text after work, thanks for making a start!

Quick tweak of gloves, with changes in orange. Mainly I'm adding from the Rogue One TK CRL, as we're dealing with the same design. Thanks for the great start. --- Gloves are based on the Rogue One TK style gloves. The base material of the gloves will be a black synthetic material similar to Lycra, Spandex, Elastane, or Nylon. The palms and fingers should feature a black leather, leather-like or Nomex material with no visible logos, textures or designs, to match reference photos. The glove extends under the forearm armor. The cuff is made from an black elasticated fabric. The hand plate is attached to back of glove and is black to match the rest of the armor. OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable): The palm has 5 raised padded sections to match reference photos.

Ok folks, thanks a million for the patience, and the continuing hard work. I've reviewed everything now and it all looks great. I've updated the main CRL thread with all of our currently finalised text: That's not to say that we can't come back to any of those if changes are identified or new references unearthed, but for the time being we'll draw a line under those green items and continue with the rest. In all of the text there was only one part that confused me, so great work on keeping the wording so clear! For the kama exterior, we have a description of 4 large panels at the top, and 3 small pleated panels running along the bottom. However it says that the smaller panels match the width of the larger panels. If that is that case, shouldn't there be the same number of each? Or am I completely misunderstanding that part? Do we have any good references that explain this visually? I'll help out with finishing up the gloves with you next.

Thanks a million Ryan, and my own apologies for being AWOL. Going to set aside a few hours later this week to dig in on this and a couple of other WIPs!

Apologies for being AWOL, real life has been demanding of late. I should be able to work my way through this later this week. Thanks a million for continuing to drive on.

Perfect. Yes, the spats will probably have their own place in the CRL as hard parts in that case. If they had been leather or fabric we could have just included them in the boot text. The only real bearing they have on the boots is that they obscure the lower part of the boot seams. The FOTK mentions "a seam down both sides of the front that swoops out to the side of the foot", but given the poor reference images and the amount that's hidden by the spats, I'd say it's safest to leave any mention of seams out of the text?

I just added in the bit about the bevelled edges, as that seems to be a very distinctive feature: Otherwise I think that's spot on. More than happy to proceed!

Working off Max's last draft, changes in orange and my own notes/comments in green. Just to start off, I'd fully agree that the R1 black trooper boots from Keep Trooping are a solid match. I'd also agree we want to keep this as open and flexible as possible for Lvl1. Boots are above ankle height, similar in style to FOTK boots. (I think this is keeps things simpler, as "New Era" will definitely confuse some people.) Flat black soles, without a heel. (NB. While the sole should be flat in profile, we don't need to say anything specific about the tread. There *could* be a small tread there for all we know - none of the visual references prove differently). Boots are made from leather or a leather like material. Boots have a full height inner zipper. (I removed any mention of elastic for Lvl1 as again, this could cause confusion). Zipper must be black in colour. OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable): The wearer's inner side of the boots have zippers and no side elastic. The sole is is flat without a heel (I think this feature is important enough that it should be required at Lvl1, so does not need to be repeated here. Certainly it is a basic Lvl1 requirement for both the FOTK and the R1TK boots) Finally, I don't think there has been any mention of the spats yet? These are extremely different in style to the FOTK spats, as they sit only on the instep and are attached under the boot. The FOTK spats sit below the ankle and are strapped around behind the ankle. Do we know whether these are leather, fabric, or hard plastic attached to elastic/fabric?